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Letters Against The Ministry

Mr. Oakland,

My email is my name teresa.avendano@gmail.com. That's Teresa Avendano. I didn't intentionally not sign my name.

I don't think I have to explain what I mean by attacking Rick, your commentary "Calvary Chapel and Purpose Driven" is all about attacking Rick. It bothers me so much when Christians like you spend so much time dividing us instead of joining us together. I may not agree with everything Pastor Rick says but I am 100% behind him because I know his intentions are good. Perhaps people like you should spend LESS time trying to find things wrong with other people's vision and spend MORE time getting God's message out and helping people around the world who are in dire need.

Thank you,

Teresa Avendano, Rancho Santa Margarita, CA

Dear Mr. Oakland,

 

I recently received a copy of your commentary on the definitive edition of the Passion of the Christ. 

 

First of all let me say that I am a Youth Pastor in the Evangelical Covenant Church and I was raised Catholic, but became a Christian outside of the Catholic Church.  That being said, I have no idea who you are other than your article that came across my desk. 

 

As to the purpose of this letter.  After reading your commentary, I found myself thoroughly disgusted with the content of your commentary.  Your negative opinion of Roman Catholicism is very discouraging.  In this age of ecumenical Christianity where most people realize that we all serve One Lord as One Church with many parts, your ignorance in regards to theological issues is hopefully an isolated incident. 

 

The account of the Passion of the Christ is what it is: a movie depicting the final hours of Christ.  Mel Gibson, himself upon the movie's release and in line with his well-publicized Catholicism claimed he used the Gospel and the traditions of the early Church, such as Veronica and the Stations of the Cross as sources for the film. In that way it is bound to have a Catholic flavor. 

 

Since the word Catholic means Universal, I see nothing wrong with that.  A faithful Catholic is just as much a Christian as a faithful Protestant.  Your commentary suggests to me that you have an unhealthy view of Catholicism.  Who cares if the Passion depicts a more active role for Mary and focuses on her relationship with Jesus (or what it might indeed have been like).  It is still an incredible tool for showing others the Gospel.

 

It is fruitless nitpickers like yourself that give the rest of us Kingdom living Christians a bad name.  I suggest that if you live in such fear as to consider the Passion of the Christ as a harbinger of the terribly misquoted verses of scripture that you ended your article with, than I pray you receive the Peace of God and a greater understanding of Jesus Christ.  I also strongly urge you to not take verses of scripture out of their original context and use them for your own good.  That is far more dangerous to whatever flock the Lord has placed you over than any movie. 

 

In closing I would like to say that I hope the next time somebody hands me a piece of commentary from you, that it will be worth my while to read it.  As a Christian and a minister of the Gospel of Truth, I hope you will read your Bible more carefully and see the importance of the traditions of the early Church.  They may not stand as strongly as the Word of God, but they are far more important than the worthless drivel you have put forth on the internet in the name of Christianity.  Please for the sake of the Kingdom of God and the Gospel, THINK HARD BEFORE YOU SPEAK OR WRITE!!  For you are bound to do more damage than good.

 

In regards to my strong words, I hope you will consider this a rebuke from one brother to another. 

 

Sincerely, 

A concerned Christian 

Hugh Hawkins

James Cavaziel is a Catholic, and I believe he's being guided by God to bring Christ to the world. He has had spiritual experiences.

Why do you have a problem with Catholicism, as if that's a bad thing for people to convert to it? The Eucharist (Holy Communion) was instigated by Jesus Christ at the Last Supper with his disciples. "Do this in memory of Me..." It is Biblical. Please don't forget the Holy Spirit either who is with us, and guides us. The early Christians regularly received the Eucharist, ie the the changing of bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ. Catholicism is a continuation of Early Christianity. It has never changed. Christianity began before the Bible was written also - something worth keeping in mind. Catholic means 'universal' - originally the universal Christian Church. Latter churches are 'breakaways'. There are more apparitions and saints within the Catholic Church - what does that say? The Holy Spirit - will take what I tell Him and give it to you. Your young men will have dreams, your old men will have visions (going from memory here, that's why I haven't quoted) - but please check the Bible for the correct words, but I'm sure you'd know them very literally. We Catholics believe that the Holy Spirit guides us to interpret the Bible correctly - not using certain scriptures to prove points, or take them out of context, but to actually hear God's word being spoken. Prayer for discernment is always needed (from the Bible also)!

The Catholic Church is the original church (the people who follow Christ) - not a 'building'.

Saint Peter was the first Pope. As Christ said "You are the Rock upon which I will build my Church!" and "The gates of Hell will not prevail against it!"

I became a Christian while in graduate school for statistics in NJ. Calvary Chapel of Philadelphia was my first church and Pastor Joe Focht continues to be one of my favorite Bible teachers.

But I no longer hold Calvary Chapel in the same esteem that I once did. Chuck Smith Jr is an excellent writer - there is no one else in the Calvary movement that writes with as much intelligence, insight and giftedness. I devour Christian writing - aside from my daily Bible reading I am constantly reading books on Christian theology, from Lewis to Pink to Willard to McManus to McLaren to Boyd. I read NT Wright, Greg Laurie, Angela Thomas, Yancey . . . I love Christian writing. Smith Jr.'s book Epiphany is one of the best books ever written on how to read the Bible.

Web posting like yours - that call into question the worship practices of others that call Christ Lord are infuriating. Why worry so much about the authenticity of the faith of others? Why not share the gospel, feed the hungry, heal the sick, visit the imprisoned, care for the widow and orphan?

They will now know we are Christians by how much we belittle the faith traditions of other brothers and sisters in Christ. Stop talking about faith in Christ and live it!

Wendy Myers
Oakville, ON

I was "saved" at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa in 1971. Thank God I found the TRUE Church in 1988...The Holy Mother Roman Catholic Church!!!!! And I found her without the help of the Emergent Church!!!! Stop leading others astray with all your hate propaganda! If it weren't for the Roman Catholic Church we wouldn't have the Bible as we know it today. And thanks be to God for the council of Nicea and the early Church councils that fought for such things as the Trinity and the Deity of Christ. Even Dr. Walter Martin refused to "throw the baby out with the bath water." (I myself heard him say it many times referring to the Roman Catholic Church.) Are you saying you are a greater authority on the Church than the original "Bible Answer Man"?


Bob

Roger, you may want to do a quick study of William Hendriksen's "More Than Conquerors" before you continue to circulate bad doctrine as it pertains to the end-times (premillennial dispensationalism). I say this with love and respect; I'll give you a challenge; either Augustine or you are wrong? You will have to read Augustine's "The City of God" book XX, section 19, to determine that of course. If William Hendriksen is wrong then Augustine is wrong. If Augustine is wrong then Paul the apostle is wrong, and so on.

I have attached a copy of Anthony Hoekema's take on Eschatology to see if you can refute your own heretical views on Preliennialism. I know its hard to switch back to the correct view after so many years of "deceiving and being deceived", but take comfort because I did. You only will continue in this very dangerous road because of pride. Think of the damage already done to the church of Christ .

Major Ray Salas
U.S. Marine Corps, Retired

I read your assesment of the Purpose Driven Peace Plan....

Sadly you think that your version of dispensational theology is that of classic Biblical Christianity. Being that it was not at all how any Christians interpreted the Bible until about 180 years ago (and not even popular until about 75 years ago) you stand in total arrogance thinking that Rick Warren's view (which is for the most part dispensational) of the Kingdom of God is un-Biblical

When we stand before Christ one day he is going to ask us if we fed the hungry, clothed the naked, visited the prisoners. How is it you can stand against a brother in the Lord who wants to do this? God will not be judgeing you or I by our Doctrine (especially escatology) but by our deeds.... Our salvation is through faith alone but The Bible is also clear that every believer will be judged later by their deeds..

Pastor Shawn Beaty
Generation Church
www.gotogeneration.com
pastorshawn@gotogeneration.com

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